Arlo McKinley Live at Hop Springs

It's proof that the bad days do get better

It's proof that love is still alive . .

In 2019, Arlo McKinley played a show at the High Watt in Nashville. While he had

years of such gigs on the DIY singer-songwriter circuit behind him, this night was

different. In the audience was one of his musical heroes, John Prine. When they met

briefly beforehand, Prine, who never gave praise lightly, told Arlo he was a fan.

McKinley recalls, “Just that moment, if that's where it ended, it would've been one of the

coolest things that ever happened to me, something I remembered forever.”

But it didn't end there. Shortly after, he was signed to Oh Boy Records, Prine's indie

label. Arlo came into 2020 with the momentum of a new album on deck - his first with a

producer and a street team - and an international tour booked. Then things took a strange

turn.

“Right before the record came out, my mother passed away,” he says. “She had always

supported me and she didn't get to see this stuff happen for me. Then one of my best

friends died shortly after. And I lost two other friends to drug addiction. I was trying to

navigate through all the emotions of that.”

And of course, like all musicians that year, he couldn't tour.

A soft-spoken introvert who's open about his past drink and drug addictions, McKinley

had to look to himself to find comfort. And in the process, he wrote the songs for what's

become his latest release, the aptly-titled This Mess We're In.

“I'm kind of private with a lot of things I go through, but in my songs, I'm honest about

everything,” he says with a smile. “So I started to write as a way of getting stuff out. To

me, this is a growth record. I was navigating through a pretty bad time, but also there

was the realization that it's time to really change, find a better way of life. My last album

was me figuring out whether to stay or go from a very confused spot in my life. This one

is trying to better myself - as a musician, as a human being, as a friend.”

When talking about his music, McKinley often uses the word “navigate.” And indeed,

the eleven songs on This Mess We're In feel like compasses to help orient himself in an

uncertain world. The opener “I Don't Mind,” an ode to self-forgiveness that gathers a

quiet power through each verse, sets the mood. From the plaintive reckonings of lives in

limbo on “City Lights” and “Back Home” to the delicate devastation of “Stealing Dark

From The Night Sky” and the catchy, Neil Young-grooved “Rushintherug,” through the

gorgeous, widescreen piano-and-strings balladry of the title track and the hymn-like

“Here's To The Dying,” these are songs that take their time revealing their secrets. They

come from deep inside and go deep inside, speaking to you through McKinley's warm,

oaky voice and leaving you a little different than how you came in. They make you feel

seen, recognized.

That feeling is borne out by the many personal letters that Arlo receives from fans.

“When I wonder if I'm doing the right thing or not with my life, these messages make

me realize that I am,” he says.

A recent memorable one came from a soldier who'd done several tours in Afghanistan.

“He said my last two albums were the only thing that got him through. I thought, 'I can't

imagine what he saw.' If the music I was making helped him get through, that's a pretty

heavy compliment.” Another came from a man who'd been diagnosed with brain cancer.

“He said he'd kind of stopped living and wasn't really present with his wife and kids. He

said my record made him really want to enjoy the moments that he had left with them. I

invited him out to a show. He came with his family, and said, 'This is the first time I've

been out in I don't know how long.' That's beyond anything I could ask for.

“Maybe I get these messages because I write from my experience,” he reckons. “I figure

if I'm going to put myself out there, I want to put who I am out there. I think some

people relate to that, like they're not the only ones going through these darker times. But

it's still crazy that something I'm writing in my bedroom can end up meaning so much to

someone.”

Music has always had special meaning for McKinley. Born and raised in Cincinnati, he

started singing in Baptist church when he was eight. At home, the family record

collection included everything from George Jones to Otis Redding. As a teen, inspired

by his dad and uncle, who played guitars in church, Arlo learned some power chords and

figured out every song on the first Social Distortion album. “From there, I taught

myself,” he says.

But a full-time music career was still years away. Through his twenties and early

thirties, he worked at a record store, gigged with a duo called The Great Depression and

“dabbled in songwriting.” Weirdly, it wasn't until he found himself in what seemed like a

dead-end job delivering tuxedos that he decided to pursue music. “I did that for years,

driving from Cincinnati to Detroit and back, but it gave me a lot of time to think and

listen to music. That's when I started writing the songs that led to up to what I'm doing

now.”

He self-released his first album, Arlo McKinley & The Lonesome Sound, in 2014 when

he was thirty-five. It may have seemed he was getting a late start. But he entered the

game almost fully-formed, without any immature or embarrassing skins to shed. He

says, “I wouldn't have been able to write about what I'm writing now or been very

relatable if I hadn't lived the thirty-something years before I started writing.”

Like his last album Die Midwestern – which Rolling Stone praised for its “songs of

heartbreak, restlessness and hard-won experience” and NPR called “personal and

moving” - the latest was cut at Sam Phillips Recording Service in Memphis with an ace

band that includes drummer Ken Coomer, guitarist Will Sexton and keyboardist Rick

Steff. McKinley says, “That studio is like a time capsule. There's just a feel where you

can tell there's been some great stuff made in there - Elvis, Jerry Lee, Roy Orbison.

Really though, more than the studio, it's the band and the producer.”

Of Matt Ross-Spang, who's worked with Jason Isbell and Margo Price, McKinley says,

“He completely gets what I'm trying to do. I sent Matt guitar-vocal demos of fifteen

songs. He would show them to the band right before we'd go out to record, so a lot of

these songs, the musicians are making up these parts on the spot. Jessie Munson did the

string arrangements. She comes up with really pretty lines.”

The addition of strings brought a cinematic dimension to McKinley's music that

accentuates his feel for romantic melancholy. “I love Nick Drake and Nick Cave, how

their songs can be very simple but sound big,” he says. “Wes Anderson movies too. I

love how he'll use music in a very simple scene to evoke a big emotion. I think this

album conveys a mental picture a lot more than stuff I've done previously. It's more than

just a collection of songs. You can visualize things.”

As McKinley visualizes the year ahead, he's optimistic that touring will be easier , and

that he'll get to play Europe for the first time this summer. When asked what he hopes

listeners will get from This Mess We're In, he says, “I hope they can identify with things

they're too ashamed to talk about or feel. There's such a stigma that goes along with

things like addiction and mental health. I just want them to know that I go through all of

that stuff too. I would just like to make them feel a little less alone. At least for the 47

minutes of the album, you can remove yourself from the world and just let everything

disappear for a bit.”

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